Afterwind needs ban list

Afterwind need ban list in forum where all baned players will be showed also reason why they got baned time date when they got ban and how long is punishment and who ban them,also this ban forum to be public all players to can visit.

Hmm, sounds like a pillory to me, and this kind of public punishment is a bit outdated ;-)

Why do you believe we need something like this?

http://kmckemie.tripod.com/images/pillory1.gif

Sorry avatar, I agree with Tzeentch and see no good argument to add this. If you want to know if (and why) someone is banned, you can simply ask one of the mods.

All other online games have ban list

作者： Tzeentch, 07.08.2012 at 08:52

Hmm, sounds like a pillory to me, and this kind of public punishment is a bit outdated ;-)

Why do you believe we need something like this?

http://kmckemie.tripod.com/images/pillory1.gif

If they are on the ban list does that mean we can throw rotten fruit at them?

I want to throw fruit at the banned people.

Why do you want a ban list? just hdrakon1 and his multiple accounts are ban... lol

What does Fruit have to with anything?

Fruit is good for throwing

I'm assuming there is already some sort of ban list that exists for mods. Why does the general public need to see it?

How do you throw yourself? need help pls

作者： Fruit, 07.08.2012 at 16:45

How do you throw yourself? need help pls

use catapult hehehhe

Enough Offtopic, arguments, please. Otherwise i had to close the tpoic

作者： Tzeentch, 07.08.2012 at 08:52

Hmm, sounds like a pillory to me, and this kind of public punishment is a bit outdated ;-)

Why do you believe we need something like this?

http://kmckemie.tripod.com/images/pillory1.gif

Not actually a pillory, but usually banned players have nothing to defend themselves with and they have to wait for the ban to expire... Which can be very long and problematic, players get mad at this, especially when it's because of some mistake, these being much more common than what's healthy.

They don't deserve a pillory, but a chance to prove their intentions.

作者： The ZOG, 08.08.2012 at 00:51

Not actually a pillory, but usually banned players have nothing to defend themselves with and they have to wait for the ban to expire... Which can be very long and problematic, players get mad at this, especially when it's because of some mistake, these being much more common than what's healthy.
They don't deserve a pillory, but a chance to prove their intentions.

I agree, everyone should have a chance to defend himself against accusations, but a open Ban List would not help, in my Opinion.
But on the Otherside, a Ban normally had a Story before, and here it looks to me like it is a long way to a ban. And a single Mod alone does not instantly ban (exept in special situations). The ban player had his chances to prevent a ban many times before getting baned.

But why not something like a baned messenger where someone with a ban can message the Mod team to defend himself (again)?
Sounds Better then a public Ban List

作者： The ZOG, 08.08.2012 at 00:51

especially when it's because of some mistake, these being much more common than what's healthy.these being much more common than what's healthy.

Shit happens, and Mods are humans who makes Mistakes like everyone else, so of Course Mistakes may happen. Every ban is discussed before and even after it is imposed. So i dont believe that we have more "accidental" Bans then somewhere else.
And be true how many baned player tell here (after being unbaned) that they were guilty? I geuss 90% say it was unfair, and start sttacking the Mods. Sadly this seems to be Standard.

作者： Tzeentch, 08.08.2012 at 02:01

But why not something like a baned messenger where someone with a ban can message the Mod team to defend himself (again)?
Sounds Better then a public Ban List

thats sound very good.
i thought about something similar like the "contact the admins" button, just for moderators. This way banned players have the possibility to defend themselves. When you send then a message via this button either a randomly choosen mod gets this message or this message goes on a special thread on the mod forum, where the first mod who sees it, will response to it.

what do you think about that?

In my opinion, there should be a list. in other online games, there is a list of banned people and why they were banned. In Combat of Arms for example, they have a huge banned list, and it fills everyday because that game has so many people and a lot of people do stupid things (hack, glitch, annoy other players, make racist comments, but mainly hack and glitch). And, that list could function as a way to deter people from making the same mistakes as what the banned people did, and to have a way for players who were banned to make cases against their ban. But, as I have seen many people go against this, that list won't be made, too many insiders oppose it.

*Refrains from posting in weird topic until now*

I'm watching and loling as ZOG is the only one saying negative things here, and turning a small suggestion into another argument about modding.

Anyway, obviously we should have a banned list because other games have one *sarcasm*. In this game, there isn't all that much you can do to hack, and it's usually fixed pretty quickly after being reported. Glitching is a fairly standard part of the game. To get punished, it's usually breaking that second rule that shows up every time you join a game: "...and be polite to fellow players." There aren't even that many main accounts getting banned; if we had a ban list, it'd just be full of hdrakon alts and other trolling accounts.

Honestly, MK, if you want to see what to do to not get banned, go here: http://afterwind.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=1843

Anything involving bans is a mod topic... But great comment nonetheless.

作者： Mathdino, 08.08.2012 at 08:01

There aren't even that many main accounts getting banned; if we had a ban list, it'd just be full of hdrakon alts and other trolling accounts.

Well, that's also what my clanmate, Inquisidor, mentioned, that the list would be full of hdrakon1 alts and other trolling accounts. but as I said before, too many people oppose it, so it won't be done.

The idea sounds good but who determines who gets banned because players would abuse it and the moderators are people too. i'm not saying they will but the moderaters might abuse it too. think about all scenarios before you post such a power giving idea that that.

Like that.

Why mods opposse the idea of a public banlist? It would it make the work of mods more transparent and give players a better relation to their "overseers". But I guess it just would make it more obvious that mods are banning people without real reason en masse. (especially Hugosch)

Not really. It would look much more like that:

http://www.brimg.info/uploads/4/dd4f04a2bc.jpg

I have never banned someone for no reason. You can ask some of my personal enemies (like Fruit when i became mod); i never banned or muted any them for my personal issues with them.

BTW: the reason why RAHOWA is raging:
RAHOWA was saying in roomchat that all mods are biassed. I've never seen him before 'till that moment, so i asked him why he was so mad. He started to insult me personally. Then i warned him to stop, and he simply didn't do so. Then i banned for 5days. After 5days (when his ban ended) he insulted me on the forum again, i removed the post and gave him another ban on the forum. Thats the reason for his raging against me.

作者： Clovek30, 15.08.2012 at 23:49

Why mods opposse the idea of a public banlist? It would it make the work of mods more transparent and give players a better relation to their "overseers". But I guess it just would make it more obvious that mods are banning people without real reason en masse. (especially Hugosch)

pls guys dont comment here abaut mods staff i just give idea for ban list you should post i acept idea sounds good or i dont acept this idea it is terrible ,i dont like this post to be locked or deleted

作者： Pinheiro, 16.08.2012 at 11:36

Not really. It would look much more like that:

http://www.brimg.info/uploads/4/dd4f04a2bc.jpg

It would appear br img.info does not work

Is that all or are there more?

That's just a small part of it