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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensible player would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
a cheap excuse? seriously look at people backgrounds and talk to other players about that guy.. before being a little arrogant asshole you are
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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensible player would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
a cheap excuse? seriously look at people backgrounds and talk to other players about that guy.. before being a little arrogant asshole you are
plese remove the asshole just he say his opinion
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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensible player would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
a cheap excuse? seriously look at people backgrounds and talk to other players about that guy.. before being a little arrogant asshole you are
plese remove the asshole just he say his opinion
he has no right to make a accusation, he never saw me play before so he wouldnt know what to expect.. he is very ignorant of others
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The expansion I used has been used many many times before with an AT left in UKR and with no dilemma. It's normal. Rich has seen this expansion before from other players and I know he's seen 1st wf before in CW. I didn't apologize for my mistake because there was a mutual understanding that wallfucking Kiev wasn't my intention. Therefore an apology shouldn't have made a difference. But, the only person who didn't tap into that understanding was Richthofen who acted out of rage. The last time I saw a situation like this the victim coalition's player left and then the other coalition fought 2v3 until they won. Ironically enough, the viewers felt that the outcome was fair and that there was nothing wrong with the 3v2. Rich's foolishness almost cost him the CW that TC shouldn't have had to tie due to his recklessness.
I didn't leave until about turn 9 because I wanted Germany to tie with me in the match so it wouldn't affect my CW record. I didn't make any moves after turn 3 except for opening Ankara. Unfortunately, the ignorance of a certain few who were viewing forced me to surrender.
@trinig - That rule you speak of was made by me. It's simply to prevent people from walling another players city first turn. Which I've sadly seen in the 1st Mid rank tourney and had to implement the rule thereafter. I used the expansion with the AT in Ukr because it's never been a big deal before whatsoever.
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a cheap excuse? seriously look at people backgrounds and talk to other players about that guy.. before being a little arrogant asshole you are
Haha, the insults are flying in now, aren't they? What's the matter, can't handle the intensity of these posts? You're the one who made the controversial decision to leave your game thus costing your clan a cw loss, not me.
I know Madara perfectly well, thank you. However you are right about looking at one's background, I obviously need to look up yours because what you're currently showing me is giving me an impression that you're a lot more retarded than AlexMeza (when he's in his autist mood).
Show some decency and start acting like your friend Jugers who is a lot more of a mature man.
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:07
1. if madara cant take belarus without invading ukraine's teritory he shouldnt do it ...taking belarus doesnt count for shit if his AT is next to kiev.
2. bla bla ukraine left bla bla they could have agreed, ofc no attack on kiev, bla bla ...LOOK AT 1.
3. madara's acting after ukraine left was ...well disapointing for someone who has POTY award
4. if there were no spectators and everyone shouting to leave the game and draw ...hm who knows what would happened
LOOK AT NUMBER 1 THING I SAID
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Totaly aggre with golbin from this action he done is like just a dirty player
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:07
1. if madara cant take belarus without invading ukraine's teritory he shouldnt do it ...taking belarus doesnt count for shit if his AT is next to kiev.
2. bla bla ukraine left bla bla they could have agreed, ofc no attack on kiev, bla bla ...LOOK AT 1.
3. madara's acting after ukraine left was ...well disapointing for someone who has POTY award
4. if there were no spectators and everyone shouting to leave the game and draw ...hm who knows what would happened
LOOK AT NUMBER 1 THING I SAID
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1) As I said, expansion used many times before there's no reason that I shouldn't use it.
2) Huh?
3) If you're talking about not leaving immediately then please refer to my previous post.
4) This is irrelevant. It doesn't matter who was watching, if everyone wasn't shouting and whatnot TC and The Bums would have actually been able to arrange something more to our liking.
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You also can do the same thing without imp and used blitz where there would been no wf. it would have ended up as a wf next to belarus cap instead.. but he chose to go imp and have range fail and wf kiev.. either go imp and dont do stupid crap, or blitz everything your way without wf
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Im sorry but i dont see the problem
we're all experienced players here lets not split hairs, we all know whats acceptable and whats not in a competitive game.
taking bearus first turn is fine, who cares if it resulted in an accidental wf, the fact is hes not gonna hit your cap the following turn. we're a small community, you think anyone wants it being spread around that theyre a shitty first turn wallfucking player?
i dont know madara well, but he seems like a decent respectable guy, i highly doubt he was sitting at his comp thinking "muhahaha ill first turn wf then rush". a simple post in game chat to ensure he wouldnt hit your cap wouldve been all that was needed
im gonna agree with trooper, rich was seeking a cheap excuse to leave.
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Im sorry but i dont see the problem
we're all experienced players here lets not split hairs, we all know whats acceptable and whats not in a competitive game.
taking bearus first turn is fine, who cares if it resulted in an accidental wf, the fact is hes not gonna hit your cap the following turn. we're a small community, you think anyone wants it being spread around that theyre a shitty first turn wallfucking player?
i dont know madara well, but he seems like a decent respectable guy, i highly doubt he was sitting at his comp thinking "muhahaha ill first turn wf then rush". a simple post in game chat to ensure he wouldnt hit your cap wouldve been all that was needed
im gonna agree with trooper, rich was seeking a cheap excuse to leave.
I wouldnt have left if that wf wasn't there in the first place.
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Im sorry but i dont see the problem
we're all experienced players here lets not split hairs, we all know whats acceptable and whats not in a competitive game.
taking bearus first turn is fine, who cares if it resulted in an accidental wf, the fact is hes not gonna hit your cap the following turn. we're a small community, you think anyone wants it being spread around that theyre a shitty first turn wallfucking player?
i dont know madara well, but he seems like a decent respectable guy, i highly doubt he was sitting at his comp thinking "muhahaha ill first turn wf then rush". a simple post in game chat to ensure he wouldnt hit your cap wouldve been all that was needed
im gonna agree with trooper, rich was seeking a cheap excuse to leave.
But why to do when i as frc take italy from spain,germ explaiedn good,and he had rs rc rwn finland 2 cities and poland?
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:22
作者： Madara, 01.03.2014 at 13:14
1) As I said, expansion used many times before there's no reason that I shouldn't use it.
2) Huh?
3) If you're talking about not leaving immediately then please refer to my previous post.
4) This is irrelevant. It doesn't matter who was watching, if everyone wasn't shouting and whatnot TC and The Bums would have actually been able to arrange something more to our liking.
1. it's a CW not a ordinary 3v3 game ...if one cant attack something without leaving his units in opponents country, he shouldnt. It should even count for leaving units close to opponents cities (any city) ...like i have seen one dude always making huge water wall around spain close to barcelona making a possible wf.
2. as i said there should be no accidental wf in CW's
3. so you were worried about some useless statistics more then your honor
4. we will never know ...if i was in your place i would have left second after ukraine left and nobody could have said anything about it
1) This is the first ever, that's it been a problem. Especially in a CW where they're professional and sensible players.
2) No they're shouldn't, then again humans make mistakes. Then again, It also shouldn't be a problem when they're sensible players in place.
3) Yes I was since it wasn't a big deal. Drop one unit into Ankara, no problem. Then I left seeing the ignorance of the crowd.
4) No we won't, that's why it's irrelevant.
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You also can do the same thing without imp and used blitz where there would been no wf. it would have ended up as a wf next to belarus cap instead.. but he chose to go imp and have range fail and wf kiev.. either go imp and dont do stupid crap, or blitz everything your way without wf
If I were to blitz I wouldn't need AT, more so I would have rushed Russia aswell. Just going Belarus alone wouldn't be very smart and what I did wasn't unusual. My mistake shouldn't have been a problem first place. You wouldn't have had to leave in the first place if I didn't cap Kiev turn 2. If you hadn't have left, turn 3 we would have seen whether or not I cap Kiev. The fact you left turn 2 without seeing that through doesn't prove your point.
Once more, this expansion has been used the same way, with the same outcome, and without dilemma. The very fact my moves were questioned as if it were intentional is wack.
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:38
HA! excuse me, did you watch that CW?
TC spain player failed hard, basicly TEH had a considerable advantage turn 1.
You guys and your shity excuse about pro players what ever crap, saying accident wf can happen ...how the fuck can someone call himself pro and say he can do an accidental capital wf ...
btw. needless to say ...goin fuckin belarus is a retarded move.
Well then please explain to me why he left? Let's assume here that you, Goblin, was playing as Ukraine and you are in Rich's shoes. Would you have left? Or would you have waited for Madara to give you some sort of assurance that he won't attack next turn before leaving?
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作者： Madara, 01.03.2014 at 13:37
You also can do the same thing without imp and used blitz where there would been no wf. it would have ended up as a wf next to belarus cap instead.. but he chose to go imp and have range fail and wf kiev.. either go imp and dont do stupid crap, or blitz everything your way without wf
If I were to blitz I wouldn't need AT, more so I would have rushed Russia aswell. Just going Belarus alone wouldn't be very smart and what I did wasn't unusual. My mistake shouldn't have been a problem first place. You wouldn't have had to leave in the first place if I didn't cap Kiev turn 2. If you hadn't have left, turn 3 we would have seen whether or not I cap Kiev. The fact you left turn 2 without seeing that through doesn't prove your point.
Once more, this expansion has been used the same way, with the same outcome, and without dilemma. The very fact my moves were questioned as if it were intentional is wack.
I persnoally never show imp turk going to belarus,all i have seen is the balkans and rs never belarus
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:38
HA! excuse me, did you watch that CW?
TC spain player failed hard, basicly TEH had a considerable advantage turn 1.
You guys and your shity excuse about pro players what ever crap, saying accident wf can happen ...how the fuck can someone call himself pro and say he can do an accidental capital wf ...
btw. needless to say ...goin fuckin belarus is a retarded move.
Well then please explain to me why he left? Let's assume here that you, Goblin, was playing as Ukraine and you are in Rich's shoes. Would you have left? Or would you have waited for Madara to give you some sort of assurance that he won't attack next turn before leaving?
Trooper with your logic i can always wf cap and dont attack.If you want we can test it for 1 day and see that 99% of players will just leave,call me noob or fag.Only a retrand will stay to play with a wfer
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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensibleplayer would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
Lol you dont show it i was france and taked from spain italy,germany expnsion good,uk had just belgium and nl,rich dont fail had rc rs rwn finalnd 2 cities and poland
first learn properly how to play this game, then share your thoeries, untill then shut up and listen becuase is the only smart thing that can come out of you, no one supports you and buddy richtofen, besides friends your clan memebrs of urs. madara is well knowen on this comunity, and isnt for playing dirty, is exactly the oposite, he has spoten many irregularies, people ghosting and he is verry competent in what he does, thats acidentelly, as other could have been, but madara is one of the last players that will cheat to win a game, and you and richtofen together dont have half of is knowledge or skill or experience so just end this conversation for you own good, by carrying on arguing you just proving how inocent your knowldge is about this game.
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:38
im gonna agree with trooper, rich was seeking a cheap excuse to leave.
HA! excuse me, did you watch that CW?
TC spain player failed hard, basicly TEH had a considerable advantage turn 1.
You guys and your shity excuse about pro players what ever crap, saying accident wf can happen ...how the fuck can someone call himself pro and say he can do an accidental capital wf ...
btw. needless to say ...goin fuckin belarus is a retarded move.
It's a move nonetheless. The argument that Madara did not take advantage of the wf has been said, but I want to reiterate that point. He not only said this, but kept his word. There is no problem here accept the fact that Rich left. If anything, Titan's Creed should have won, because although there had been a wf, it did not affect the actual game (except Rich's abandoning his team, which was his own folly). But Madara, being the wise and generous person he is, tied the game so that the game would be null and void. If anything, this argument is pointless, because the clanwar in question had no repercussions on anyone whatsoever except on Madara. The one reason he should get this much grief is if he had taken Kiev turn 2, which did not happen.
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Trooper with your logic i can always wf cap and dont attack.If you want we can test it for 1 day and see that 99% of players will just leave,call me noob or fag.Only a retrand will stay to play with a wfer
Hi mate. First of all, you're getting my views all wrong here. You're making opinions and ignoring the variables of the game. Madara didn't just put a unit there. He put a unit there (AT) to attack a country. And no, you're totally wrong, 99% of the players here would just take their opponents word that they won't rush and carry on. 1% of aw like Rich would just leave.
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Trooper with your logic i can always wf cap and dont attack.If you want we can test it for 1 day and see that 99% of players will just leave,call me noob or fag.Only a retrand will stay to play with a wfer
Hi mate. First of all, you're getting my views all wrong here. You're making opinions and ignoring the variables of the game. Madara didn't just put a unit there. He put a unit there (AT) to attack a country. And no, you're totally wrong, 99% of the players here would just take their opponents word that they won't rush and carry on. 1% of aw like Rich would just leave.
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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensibleplayer would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
Lol you dont show it i was france and taked from spain italy,germany expnsion good,uk had just belgium and nl,rich dont fail had rc rs rwn finalnd 2 cities and poland
first learn properly how to play this game, then share your thoeries, untill then shut up and listen becuase is the only smart thing that can come out of you, no one supports you and buddy richtofen, besides friends your clan memebrs of urs. madara is well knowen on this comunity, and isnt for playing dirty, is exactly the oposite, he has spoten many irregularies, people ghosting and he is verry competent in what he does, thats acidentelly, as other could have been, but madara is one of the last players that will cheat to win a game, and you and richtofen together dont have half of is knowledge or skill or experience so just end this conversation for you own good, by carrying on arguing you just proving how inocent your knowldge is about this game.
Pontez i am saying for this game like madara act:wf to take belarus(a not major country-someone can say it no point to take it) and just rich fells he has the right to leave.He dont even cared if we will win or lose cw when he had been wfed he just dont like people who play dirty(madara saied is 4th time at cw he wfs).
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Trooper with your logic i can always wf cap and dont attack.If you want we can test it for 1 day and see that 99% of players will just leave,call me noob or fag.Only a retrand will stay to play with a wfer
Hi mate. First of all, you're getting my views all wrong here. You're making opinions and ignoring the variables of the game. Madara didn't just put a unit there. He put a unit there (AT) to attack a country. And no, you're totally wrong, 99% of the players here would just take their opponents word that they won't rush and carry on. 1% of aw like Rich would just leave.
Ok lets see it tomorow we will do the test you will make 2v2 and i will do the same with madara taking belarus and lets see the statics(a lot of know it now from topic so we must do it a other day that they will not know it)
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:54
Well then please explain to me why he left? Let's assume here that you, Goblin, was playing as Ukraine and you are in Rich's shoes. Would you have left? Or would you have waited for Madara to give you some sort of assurance that he won't attack next turn before leaving?
I wouldnt need no assurance from madara ...i know he wouldnt attack. But WTF is his troops doin in my country 1st turn and WHY THE FUCK is it so close to my capital.
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ofc i could have moved trans from odessa ...just forgot
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:54
Well then please explain to me why he left? Let's assume here that you, Goblin, was playing as Ukraine and you are in Rich's shoes. Would you have left? Or would you have waited for Madara to give you some sort of assurance that he won't attack next turn before leaving?
I wouldnt need no assurance from madara ...i know he wouldnt attack. But WTF is his troops doin in my country 1st turn and WHY THE FUCK is it so close to my capital.
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Aight, well you got me there. I'm going to go and assume Madara didn't know how to do that, you seem like a reasonable bloke so I'm also going to assume you and I know madara won't cheat to win a cw. The main conclusion we can take from this thread, Rich overreacted to something which could of easily been resolved.
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I dont care who wins or lose is just a game.This i care is to play right and no dirty like madara does
Silly child, he wasn't playing dirty at all. He was expanding to take Belarus, we all know Madara well he's not the type to wf and take the cap the turn after.
Want to know what I really think? I think Richtofen knew he wasn't going to win the cw anyway and was looking for a cheap excuse to leave the game early. No other sensibleplayer would of left. I think everyone else will agree with me on this one too.
Lol you dont show it i was france and taked from spain italy,germany expnsion good,uk had just belgium and nl,rich dont fail had rc rs rwn finalnd 2 cities and poland
first learn properly how to play this game, then share your thoeries, untill then shut up and listen becuase is the only smart thing that can come out of you, no one supports you and buddy richtofen, besides friends your clan memebrs of urs. madara is well knowen on this comunity, and isnt for playing dirty, is exactly the oposite, he has spoten many irregularies, people ghosting and he is verry competent in what he does, thats acidentelly, as other could have been, but madara is one of the last players that will cheat to win a game, and you and richtofen together dont have half of is knowledge or skill or experience so just end this conversation for you own good, by carrying on arguing you just proving how inocent your knowldge is about this game.
Pontez i am saying for this game like madara act:wf to take belarus(a not major country-someone can say it no point to take it) and just rich fells he has the right to leave.He dont even cared if we will win or lose cw when he had been wfed he just dont like people who play dirty(madara saied is 4th time at cw he wfs).
good players dont ragequit, he has no reason for leaving the game, he is a kid, thats all bro quit this argument, you gonna get the intire at war comunity against you, when ppl wg do you also leave the game?? if you dc do you also leave the game?? if ur moves dont go threw one turn do you ragequit like that?? because those are reasons much worst and those can actually make you lose a game, more then this acidental wf that happend on the cw, so quit it bro, quit it!
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:57
It's a move nonetheless. The argument that Madara did not take advantage of the wf has been said, but I want to reiterate that point. He not only said this, but kept his word. There is no problem here accept the fact that Rich left. If anything, Titan's Creed should have won, because although there had been a wf, it did not affect the actual game (except Rich's abandoning his team, which was his own folly). But Madara, being the wise and generous person he is, tied the game so that the game would be null and void. If anything, this argument is pointless, because the clanwar in question had no repercussions on anyone whatsoever except on Madara. The one reason he should get this much grief is if he had taken Kiev turn 2, which did not happen.
Did you even watch that CW?
Please dont defend your clan mate ...and learn how to take bela without fucking goin in your enemy teritory ...fuckin noobs.
Golbin right but remove noob,they narbs and need to learn the right way of play not the dirty way
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Madara and richthofen whatnots is irrelevant.The point is as goblin said there is a rule certainly older than when i came up that forbid units in enemy territory turn 1.So has this changed when i was away or you guys wanna change that rule?Cause most of you seem to be ok with that.
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:57
It's a move nonetheless. The argument that Madara did not take advantage of the wf has been said, but I want to reiterate that point. He not only said this, but kept his word. There is no problem here accept the fact that Rich left. If anything, Titan's Creed should have won, because although there had been a wf, it did not affect the actual game (except Rich's abandoning his team, which was his own folly). But Madara, being the wise and generous person he is, tied the game so that the game would be null and void. If anything, this argument is pointless, because the clanwar in question had no repercussions on anyone whatsoever except on Madara. The one reason he should get this much grief is if he had taken Kiev turn 2, which did not happen.
Did you even watch that CW?
Please dont defend your clan mate ...and learn how to take bela without fucking goin in your enemy teritory ...fuckin noobs.
Golbin right but remove noob,they narbs and need to learn the right way of play not the dirty way
Do you even know atwar rules?
He did wallf, but he said he would not and did not take Kiev. I don't see any problem.
Also, please learn English before commenting in the atwar forums. ^_^
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Ok lets see it tomorow we will do the test you will make 2v2 and i will do the same with madara taking belarus and lets see the statics(a lot of know it now from topic so we must do it a other day that they will not know it)
Sure thing, you have to completely re-act Madara's move though. And the game has to be done with ranks 6+.
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作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:54
Well then please explain to me why he left? Let's assume here that you, Goblin, was playing as Ukraine and you are in Rich's shoes. Would you have left? Or would you have waited for Madara to give you some sort of assurance that he won't attack next turn before leaving?
I wouldnt need no assurance from madara ...i know he wouldnt attack. But WTF is his troops doin in my country 1st turn and WHY THE FUCK is it so close to my capital.
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As I said, this was my 3rd time trying the expansion ever. I was trying something I saw in a CW in which a wf was made on Kiev without a problem.
作者： Goblin, 01.03.2014 at 13:38
im gonna agree with trooper, rich was seeking a cheap excuse to leave.
HA! excuse me, did you watch that CW?
TC spain player failed hard, basicly TEH had a considerable advantage turn 1.
You guys and your shity excuse about pro players what ever crap, saying accident wf can happen ...how the fuck can someone call himself pro and say he can do an accidental capital wf ...
btw. needless to say ...goin fuckin belarus is a retarded move.
 
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