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发表从 Nero, 19.10.2016 - 19:52
24.10.2016 - 14:20
作者: Ben Pimpin, 24.10.2016 at 14:03

Any one who votes for trump is foolish. Trump may not owe any favors and be out for own agenda but his agenda is fucking retarded. Trump will increase the debt more than hillary cost more jobs than hillary and fuck up the world more than hillary or so experts say . Trump will also end freedom in the USA with his plan to deport 12 million people from the country. how can u do that without becoming a door to door totalitarian government? and lets not even talk about how he is puppet for Putin to erase US influence across the world or how he plans to arm the most unstable regions in the world (other than africa) with nuclear weapons.

Easiest way to deport illegals, is to require Id that they can not obtain, which is required to be used for any and all monetary purchases, public building, education, and for opening up accounts such as gas, electric and water. Offer anyone already here a way to become a legal citizen, and then no more will want to come because it would not be hospitable.
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24.10.2016 - 14:22
作者: Acquiesce, 24.10.2016 at 13:18

But they aren't the same. They are actually ideological opposites when it comes to the defining issue of our time: nationalism vs globalism.

Sure, but who cares about their ideology when you already know both are liars and corrupt... in that sense, they both are the same, which (should) make them useless for the charge.
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24.10.2016 - 14:29
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:22

作者: Acquiesce, 24.10.2016 at 13:18

But they aren't the same. They are actually ideological opposites when it comes to the defining issue of our time: nationalism vs globalism.

Sure, but who cares about their ideology when you already know both are liars and corrupt... in that sense, they both are the same, which (should) make them useless for the charge.

No if the left win, the right is destroyed, if the right wins balance is re eastablished. Corruption comes with power, so the only real way to fix this is term limits for congress, and supreme court judges. That way corporations can't target them to force there agendas. BUT as of right now trump is not bought, so he needs to choose that supreme court judge or we are fucked.
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24.10.2016 - 14:33
作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

Because if the institutions and the establishment are going to make fun of the citizens the law and the seak of the nation in order to strength themselves people eventually start thinking that being polite or fair or reasonable won't help and you have to be agressive too

Things have been the same for years... I don't remember a "fair", "polite" or "reasonable" usa any time near our period. Nonsense.

作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

i don't know if Trump will be a good president
we should have known what she will do as president

So.... there you go, you have no clue whether one or the other would be a better president. In fact, you barely have any clue of what will both do, besides trump's retarded wall. Can you really choose not knowing anything at all? I call this bullshit. None of these two should ever be president.

作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

According to surveys most of Hillary voters vote for her out of fear of Trump or in order to oppose the republicans

Same happens the other way. It all comes to what I already pointed you out: people vote to the guy the hate the least. Wtf, do you consider that even an election?
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24.10.2016 - 14:36
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:29

No if the left win, the right is destroyed, if the right wins balance is re eastablished. Corruption comes with power, so the only real way to fix this is term limits for congress, and supreme court judges. That way corporations can't target them to force there agendas. BUT as of right now trump is not bought, so he needs to choose that supreme court judge or we are fucked.

Corruption is independent from the party who wins, both will let it grow.... no wing can be destroyed, as soon as the other comes in charge, they will make sure to destroy what the old president did: that's precisely unbalanced and retrograde. And why the heck would you consider trump adequate for choosing a judge...? I would never let him do that. What's more, justice SHOULD NOT be tied with politics, never! That's not justice at all.
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24.10.2016 - 14:38
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:14

(more like three million)

Ha... if you had to start counting all illegal inmigrants (since the beggining of times in the usa), you'd get out of people
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24.10.2016 - 14:40
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:33

作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

Because if the institutions and the establishment are going to make fun of the citizens the law and the seak of the nation in order to strength themselves people eventually start thinking that being polite or fair or reasonable won't help and you have to be agressive too

Things have been the same for years... I don't remember a "fair", "polite" or "reasonable" usa any time near our period. Nonsense.

作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

i don't know if Trump will be a good president
we should have known what she will do as president

So.... there you go, you have no clue whether one or the other would be a better president. In fact, you barely have any clue of what will both do, besides trump's retarded wall. Can you really choose not knowing anything at all? I call this bullshit. None of these two should ever be president.

作者: Rock Lee, 24.10.2016 at 13:34

According to surveys most of Hillary voters vote for her out of fear of Trump or in order to oppose the republicans

Same happens the other way. It all comes to what I already pointed you out: people vote to the guy the hate the least. Wtf, do you consider that even an election?

Fair and polite to its own people, countries are competitors, not families, ofcourse we are not nice,

I wrote an en tire fucking wall of things trump has promised to do, and another one of things Hillary has already done, take a look and you will see which to pick. YOUR logic only works for trump because he has not been in a political office yet so who knows what he will do. HILLARY HAS A 36 YEAR CRIME SPREE, how do you not know what she's gonna do? Let me tell you, she's gonna sell this country to the highest bidder after destroying it's identity. Fucking rediculous.
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24.10.2016 - 14:41
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:38

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:14

(more like three million)

Ha... if you had to start counting all illegal inmigrants (since the beggining of times in the usa), you'd get out of people

Early america needed migrants to build the country, we do not need anymore our population is doing fine now so our laws adjusted to regulatory migration instead of open migration.
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24.10.2016 - 14:43
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:40

YOUR logic only works for trump because he has not been in a political office yet so who knows what he will do

He will do the exact same he has done with his own business: lie about them to eventually take them to bankrupcy
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24.10.2016 - 14:45
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:41

Early america needed migrants to build the country, we do not need anymore our population is doing fine now so our laws adjusted to regulatory migration instead of open migration.

Tipical usa self-centered mind set.... but yeah, it would be logic if not for the fact that it is constantly flowing and I still don't see usa die or burn in hell... what makes you think it should die now? Just because a guy with a tie says so? Hm, sure

Anyway, there's no way to 100% stop illegal migration. Good luck with that.
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24.10.2016 - 14:46
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:43

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:40

YOUR logic only works for trump because he has not been in a political office yet so who knows what he will do

He will do the exact same he has done with his own business: lie about them to eventually take them to bankrupcy

Except his actual business is real estate and he's made billions of dollars, the only thing that's bankrupted are business ventures outside his main source of income, and it's just that a venture, an experiment. With that being said his real eastate portfolio is impeccable.
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24.10.2016 - 14:49
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:45

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:41

Early america needed migrants to build the country, we do not need anymore our population is doing fine now so our laws adjusted to regulatory migration instead of open migration.

Tipical usa self-centered mind set.... but yeah, it would be logic if not for the fact that it is constantly flowing and I still don't see usa die or burn in hell... what makes you think it should die now? Just because a guy with a tie says so? Hm, sure

Anyway, there's no way to 100% stop illegal migration. Good luck with that.

I'm pretty sure the plan I stated above would signifigantly hamper illegal migration, and your right can't completly stop it but bring it down to a more control able level we sure as hell can.
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24.10.2016 - 14:49
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:46

Except his actual business is real estate and he's made billions of dollars, the only thing that's bankrupted are business ventures outside his main source of income, and it's just that a venture, an experiment. With that being said his real eastate portfolio is impeccable.

His "actual" business wasn't started by him tho. That has no effort or thinking procces involved......it's not his merit (maybe his parent's or grandparent's merit, idk). The ones he started were a total failure or total lies...
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24.10.2016 - 14:53
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:49

I'm pretty sure the plan I stated above would signifigantly hamper illegal migration, and your right can't completly stop it but bring it down to a more control able level we sure as hell can.

Nothing will change if that's what you expect. Try what you want, do what you want, your current situation isn't due to those few illegal inmigrants who have in the past aided you but now seem quite irrelevant just cause a guy says so. I still don't know how didn't usa close his borders like decades ago with the stereotypical self-centered mentality you have. Well, I do know why, it's because it benefited you and it always has.
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24.10.2016 - 14:54
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:49

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:46

Except his actual business is real estate and he's made billions of dollars, the only thing that's bankrupted are business ventures outside his main source of income, and it's just that a venture, an experiment. With that being said his real eastate portfolio is impeccable.

His "actual" business wasn't started by him tho. That has no effort or thinking procces involved......it's not his merit (maybe his parent's or grandparent's merit, idk). The ones he started were a total failure or total lies...

His father only brokered in mom and pop inns, and suburban housing, Donald expanded it massively to building skyscrapers in Tokyo and switzeeland, creating thousands of jobs to build amazing constructs of his investment. It's like just because he once worked for his father, he can't create his own business of the same nature, and make it 100x more profitable? Thats illogical, and the fact your not from the United states and seriously misinformed or unaware is really hurting your credibility.
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24.10.2016 - 14:57
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 14:53

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:49

I'm pretty sure the plan I stated above would signifigantly hamper illegal migration, and your right can't completly stop it but bring it down to a more control able level we sure as hell can.

Nothing will change if that's what you expect. Try what you want, do what you want, your current situation isn't due to those few illegal inmigrants who have in the past aided you but now seem quite irrelevant just cause a guy says so. I still don't know how didn't usa close his borders like decades ago with the stereotypical self-centered mentality you have. Well, I do know why, it's because it benefited you and it always has.

Yes it benefits americans the only people who matter to me. I'M sorry illegals don't pay taxes are usually low income and feed of our welfare system, then burn and disrespect or flag and never assimilate into our culture. All I really want is for migrants to come here to help this country and become americans, not to feed of it like an animal while actually hating us.
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24.10.2016 - 15:28
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:57

I'M sorry illegals don't pay taxes are usually low income and feed of our welfare system, then burn and disrespect or flag and never assimilate into our culture

Do you know how many rich people don't pay their taxes in the usa? Will you deport them too? Fraud is everywhere and rich people's fraud is way more important.
Perharps you should notice how many usa citizens also commit illegal things, which in turn is a disrespect toward your flag, country and laws.
Usa culture is a huge mix of cultures, not everyone can asimilate it completely in a couple years but I'd say it has worked out pretty well considering all the illegal immigrants that have arrived to the country since the begining of its existance... I don't see all illegal inmigrants buring flags out there or there would be a real civil war going on
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24.10.2016 - 15:29
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:54

His father only brokered in mom and pop inns, and suburban housing, Donald expanded it massively to building skyscrapers in Tokyo and switzeeland, creating thousands of jobs to build amazing constructs of his investment. It's like just because he once worked for his father, he can't create his own business of the same nature, and make it 100x more profitable? Thats illogical, and the fact your not from the United states and seriously misinformed or unaware is really hurting your credibility.

You said the key word: expanded. Not such a hard task once you have all the basis. Anyway, it's just one business going fine. Are you just gonna excuse all the others as "ventures"? It's a lawsy excuse to me.
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24.10.2016 - 15:31
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 15:28

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:57

I'M sorry illegals don't pay taxes are usually low income and feed of our welfare system, then burn and disrespect or flag and never assimilate into our culture

Do you know how many rich people don't pay their taxes in the usa? Will you deport them too? Fraud is everywhere and rich people's fraud is way more important.
Perharps you should notice how many usa citizens also commit illegal things, which in turn is a disrespect toward your flag, country and laws.
Usa culture is a huge mix of cultures, not everyone can asimilate it completely in a couple years but I'd say it has worked pretty well when you think of all the illegal immigrants that have arrived to the country since the begining of its existance...

Don't use liberal arguement repositioning on me, cut that shit out. No one is dumb to there activities either, but it has nothing to do with our arguement about illegal migration. Both need to be stopped.
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24.10.2016 - 15:33
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:31

Don't use liberal arguement repositioning on me, cut that shit out. No one is dumb to there activities either, but it has nothing to do with our arguement about illegal migration. Both need to be stopped.

Nice argument: "x" has to stop, that's it. Is that... a republican argument? Maybe democrat? I don't know why would you call it a liberal argument since I'm just trying to make sense here. Suit yourself as you please but don't judge me, you don't know me. If you don't have an answer just shut up...
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24.10.2016 - 15:34
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 15:29

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 14:54

His father only brokered in mom and pop inns, and suburban housing, Donald expanded it massively to building skyscrapers in Tokyo and switzeeland, creating thousands of jobs to build amazing constructs of his investment. It's like just because he once worked for his father, he can't create his own business of the same nature, and make it 100x more profitable? Thats illogical, and the fact your not from the United states and seriously misinformed or unaware is really hurting your credibility.

You said the key word: expanded. Not such a hard task once you have all the basis. Anyway, it's just one business going fine. Are you just gonna excuse all the others as "ventures"? It's a lawsy excuse to me.

I'm done, so your telling me windows 95 was the hard work and everything after that was a cake walk? Cause you know the basic where there. Maybe I should only buy cars from the 30s because they really did all the work.
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24.10.2016 - 15:36
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:34

I'm done, so your telling me windows 95 was the hard work and everything after that was a cake walk? Cause you know the basic where there. Maybe I should only buy cars from the 30s because they really did all the work.

Yup, the first windows was the hardest work since it actually took creativity and new ideas to develop it from nothing. Next windows are the same basis with added twerks which advance at the same time as technology does.

Actually old cars lasted longer and new advances in technology allowed to create new engines, etc., until someone introduced planned obsolescence
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24.10.2016 - 15:38
Political threads always make me sad.
They make me lose respect for people, once, respected very much.
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24.10.2016 - 15:39
作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 15:36

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:34

I'm done, so your telling me windows 95 was the hard work and everything after that was a cake walk? Cause you know the basic where there. Maybe I should only buy cars from the 30s because they really did all the work.

Yup, the first windows was the hardest work since it actually took creativity and new ideas to develop it from nothing. Next windows are the same basis with added twerks which advance at the same time as technology does.

Ok anyone who reads that will get a nice laugh.:D
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24.10.2016 - 15:39
作者: Black Swans, 24.10.2016 at 15:38

Political threads always make me sad.
They make me lose respect for people, once, respected very much.

That's why you don't mix politics with hangovers Idk if you guys have this same phrase hehe
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24.10.2016 - 15:40
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:39

Ok anyone who reads that will get a nice laugh.:D

As if you understood anything at all perhaps you lack that creativity, that's why you don't value it
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24.10.2016 - 15:58
作者: Black Swans, 24.10.2016 at 15:38

Political threads always make me sad.
They make me lose respect for people, once, respected very much.

I must know was it me or raul xD?
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24.10.2016 - 19:45
作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:39

作者: RaulPB, 24.10.2016 at 15:36

作者: Helly, 24.10.2016 at 15:34

I'm done, so your telling me windows 95 was the hard work and everything after that was a cake walk? Cause you know the basic where there. Maybe I should only buy cars from the 30s because they really did all the work.

Yup, the first windows was the hardest work since it actually took creativity and new ideas to develop it from nothing. Next windows are the same basis with added twerks which advance at the same time as technology does.

Ok anyone who reads that will get a nice laugh.:D

i dont both reading trump supporters opinion Lmao in middle school/ Elementary School/ I read dr. sues books they rhymed too
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24.10.2016 - 19:46
And actually the official number is 11 Million 12 Million being the highest
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24.10.2016 - 19:48
Vs. A person who has never been in Politics like Ronald Raegan and what did he do to the national Debt? remind me plz I dont remember
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