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发表从 Prometheus, 09.09.2016 - 13:56
Hello Gentlemen,

I have been thinking about this for quite some time now, and I have become increasingly curious about the history of Atwar.

While I catch snippets from old forum posts, and renegade conversations; there is so much about the history of this game we all play that I am simply unaware of. The purpose of this thread is simply to invite old time players, to talk of the "glory days" share links to old threads, or even write something about the progression of the game. If anyone is interested in writing clan histories, player histories, etc know that you will have at least one avid reader.

I'll list a couple questions here i'm interested in to get the idea going, feel free to answer these questions or just talk about Atwar in general

)What was Atwar like in the beginning? Was there this divide between Scenario/RP/and "competitive" players?
)How was EU+ found to be the most balanced map? UK/Germ or UKR/Turk standard duels?
)I have heard things like Russia Central being militia back in the day, when was this changed and have their been any other significant balance changes?
)Clans, the rise of SM, why did Bonk create it ,how have they managed to be so strong for so long while other clans have fallen apart.
)Dalmati,Ily, just old dead clan in general that were OP, what happened to them and what was it like CWing back in their times?
)Dueling, how had the standards for duels changed, as well as dueling ethics?
)OP players, I know of Tophats, Chess, but what other names are old legends? What kind of strategies and picks did they like to play?
)progression and balance of strategies, I have heard that Tophats helped with balancing, then Lao did, any other big balance changes?
)personal player histories? Much like what Pavie wrote if anyone wants to write about how they found Atwar, what clans they joined, who taught them, what games they like to play etc.

Thank you in advance to anyone who takes the time to post here,
Cheers,
Prometheus.
28.09.2016 - 07:44
Everyone who didn't mention me is going on my enemies list. See you in the game
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28.09.2016 - 08:28
作者: Cthulhu, 28.09.2016 at 07:44

Everyone who didn't mention me is going on my enemies list. See you in the game

I didn't mention you in my amazing 8-word-long post :O
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28.11.2016 - 19:18
作者: clovis1122, 09.09.2016 at 20:50

作者: Cpt.Magic, 09.09.2016 at 20:41

We have a wiki about atwar history someone post the link


https://encyclopediadramatica.se/AtWar

one of the funniest things I've ever read

Shout on global that there is a WWII up and all the people leave their games and it doesn't actually exist

oh my god
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29.11.2016 - 21:23
作者: Rock Lee, 28.11.2016 at 19:18

作者: clovis1122, 09.09.2016 at 20:50

作者: Cpt.Magic, 09.09.2016 at 20:41

We have a wiki about atwar history someone post the link


https://encyclopediadramatica.se/AtWar

one of the funniest things I've ever read

Shout on global that there is a WWII up and all the people leave their games and it doesn't actually exist

oh my god

i just clicked on this encyclopedia article again.. omfg i lol'd
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30.11.2016 - 12:47
Since everyone thinks i'm hdrakon I'll just post my atWar history to clear things up.

I joined atWar in 2013 after my friend introduced me to it. I played some games and made noob clans, and in general I was just your average low rank noob. I never played scenario or RP games, and I take pride in that. I stuck with Europe and World games, and Ancient World or Zombie Apocolypse for SP (Zombies was really good for SP). My first serious clan was Syndicate and my mentors were MOU and Paolo, but I later left.

I met hdrakon later that year on his alt Vermeer. He was rank 6 and he was raping everyone in duels, so I was attracted to his pro ness and befriended him and been his friend ever since. I continued playing atWar but would usually stop and come back after a couple of months. I recently started using hdrakon's ROYAL account to lead Mystics as hdrakon was banned forever (it was me who asked Trollface to unban hdrakon, not himself) and I guess I will continue using ROYAL as my own account.
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30.11.2016 - 12:55
作者: ROYAL, 30.11.2016 at 12:47

Since everyone thinks i'm hdrakon I'll just post my atWar history to clear things up.

I joined atWar in 2013 after my friend introduced me to it. I played some games and made noob clans, and in general I was just your average low rank noob. I never played scenario or RP games, and I take pride in that. I stuck with Europe and World games, and Ancient World or Zombie Apocolypse for SP (Zombies was really good for SP). My first serious clan was Syndicate and my mentors were MOU and Paolo, but I later left.

I met hdrakon later that year on his alt Vermeer. He was rank 6 and he was raping everyone in duels, so I was attracted to his pro ness and befriended him and been his friend ever since. I continued playing atWar but would usually stop and come back after a couple of months. I recently started using hdrakon's ROYAL account to lead Mystics as hdrakon was banned forever (it was me who asked Trollface to unban hdrakon, not himself) and I guess I will continue using ROYAL as my own account.

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30.11.2016 - 12:56
作者: Sultan of Swing, 30.11.2016 at 12:55

作者: ROYAL, 30.11.2016 at 12:47

Since everyone thinks i'm hdrakon I'll just post my atWar history to clear things up.

I joined atWar in 2013 after my friend introduced me to it. I played some games and made noob clans, and in general I was just your average low rank noob. I never played scenario or RP games, and I take pride in that. I stuck with Europe and World games, and Ancient World or Zombie Apocolypse for SP (Zombies was really good for SP). My first serious clan was Syndicate and my mentors were MOU and Paolo, but I later left.

I met hdrakon later that year on his alt Vermeer. He was rank 6 and he was raping everyone in duels, so I was attracted to his pro ness and befriended him and been his friend ever since. I continued playing atWar but would usually stop and come back after a couple of months. I recently started using hdrakon's ROYAL account to lead Mystics as hdrakon was banned forever (it was me who asked Trollface to unban hdrakon, not himself) and I guess I will continue using ROYAL as my own account.

pics or no proof

http://atwar-game.com/users/profile.php?user_id=332036
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30.11.2016 - 13:37
This proves nothing! prove ur not hdra!
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30.11.2016 - 13:39
作者: ROYAL, 30.11.2016 at 12:47

Since everyone thinks i'm hdrakon I'll just post my atWar history to clear things up.

I joined atWar in 2013 after my friend introduced me to it. I played some games and made noob clans, and in general I was just your average low rank noob. I never played scenario or RP games, and I take pride in that. I stuck with Europe and World games, and Ancient World or Zombie Apocolypse for SP (Zombies was really good for SP). My first serious clan was Syndicate and my mentors were MOU and Paolo, but I later left.

I met hdrakon later that year on his alt Vermeer. He was rank 6 and he was raping everyone in duels, so I was attracted to his pro ness and befriended him and been his friend ever since. I continued playing atWar but would usually stop and come back after a couple of months. I recently started using hdrakon's ROYAL account to lead Mystics as hdrakon was banned forever (it was me who asked Trollface to unban hdrakon, not himself) and I guess I will continue using ROYAL as my own account.


#coolstorybro

>types like hdrakon
>plays like hdrakon
>shares hdrakons beliefs
>has adopted hdrakons prejudices
>is permanently online like hdrakon

But yea im sure youre not hdrakon. If that was true any sensible player would use their own account. On the modforum is 3 2-3 page threads that tell the story of a some psycho arab who after being banned for being a general all round cancer began a 6 month vpn aided campaign of spamming and harassment of the modteam to get himself unbanned. He spun stories of redemption to some mods while sending deaththreats to others(vril and one of the real reasons he quit). It is truly unbelievable that someone would go to all that effort. I cannot even begin to imagine what type of man sits behind hdrakons pc but it is hilarious that he keeps getting unbanned as new mods and admins unaware of his history arrive on the scene.

Hdrakon doesnt have friends. Who'd be friends with someone like that. Theres a reason the real royal abandoned that account. Why would you even want to be associated with him.

Oh and hdrakon i look forward to the next batch of mysterious guests who spam me with ira songs for making this post. Cheers.
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30.11.2016 - 13:48
作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 13:39

作者: ROYAL, 30.11.2016 at 12:47

Since everyone thinks i'm hdrakon I'll just post my atWar history to clear things up.

I joined atWar in 2013 after my friend introduced me to it. I played some games and made noob clans, and in general I was just your average low rank noob. I never played scenario or RP games, and I take pride in that. I stuck with Europe and World games, and Ancient World or Zombie Apocolypse for SP (Zombies was really good for SP). My first serious clan was Syndicate and my mentors were MOU and Paolo, but I later left.

I met hdrakon later that year on his alt Vermeer. He was rank 6 and he was raping everyone in duels, so I was attracted to his pro ness and befriended him and been his friend ever since. I continued playing atWar but would usually stop and come back after a couple of months. I recently started using hdrakon's ROYAL account to lead Mystics as hdrakon was banned forever (it was me who asked Trollface to unban hdrakon, not himself) and I guess I will continue using ROYAL as my own account.


#coolstorybro

>types like hdrakon
>plays like hdrakon
>shares hdrakons beliefs
>has adopted hdrakons prejudices
>is permanently online like hdrakon

But yea im sure youre not hdrakon. If that was true any sensible player would use their own account. On the modforum is 3 2-3 page threads that tell the story of a some psycho arab who after being banned for being a general all round cancer began a 6 month vpn aided campaign of spamming and harassment of the modteam to get himself unbanned. He spun stories of redemption to some mods while sending deaththreats to others(vril and one of the real reasons he quit). It is truly unbelievable that someone would go to all that effort. I cannot even begin to imagine what type of man sits behind hdrakons pc but it is hilarious that he keeps getting unbanned as new mods and admins unaware of his history arrive on the scene.

Hdrakon doesnt have friends. Who'd be friends with someone like that. Theres a reason the real royal abandoned that account. Why would you even want to be associated with him.

Oh and hdrakon i look forward to the next batch of mysterious guests who spam me with ira songs for making this post. Cheers.

If I told you who I really am I'm sure that would shut you up once and for all, so if you're online I would gladly tell you. You're such an idiot it's funny.

And how do I act like hdrakon? Has anyone ever seen me speak Hebrew? I have no enemies on this game except the idiots such as yourself who randomly assume i'm hdrakon and attack me for no reason. It's also a well known fact I don't play east (hdrakon favoured playing east). Fuck off.
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30.11.2016 - 15:54
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I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.
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30.11.2016 - 16:00
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作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.

Lol. That guy vril is serious leaving atwar if hdrakon got unbanned? Man of his words
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30.11.2016 - 16:40
Well, i started Jun 11 with like 20 or 30 of my israeli friends from erepublik, (yup we had israeli community here once), at the time the game was extremly popular at the IRC communities and extremly fun, It's hard to imagine and surely to explain how much, if nowdays you play to entertain yourself and pass your time like a dickhead back then you had nerves to think and to follow all your neighbors and other players and actually be part of the game, not redoing/repeating something you learned million years ago, you actually felt part of something and rewarded, we played through summers and winters days and nights, we spent whole days tracking zizou and get our revenge for all the games he rejoined and ruind for us. at the times you could see in what room every player plays, we also made games of "capture that city and win" (i don't know if it still excists) and waited for him to latejoin, spotting all our marines and stealth near iceland and cyprus to kill him when he joins.

When the scenarios came up to the game and as the game proccessed the game came way too individual, the plenty of rooms was'snt there anymore, the communities and groups of friends got way less active and more of a thing you do from time to time but not regularry, if you were too low rank you could'nt join the good games because rankism came with the scenarios, and even if you prefered to play with your community from time to time the normal games were way more common or contained way less players from that point, on one hand it created high numbers of skilled players, on the other hand the less dedicated players did'nt have lot to look for in the game.

We even founded a coalition for us, the Israeli Legion, and had one cw against Dalmati, but eventaully that was over, my friends stoped playing the game regularry and i turned into WWII player, i remember it. it was long long era, we played every evening to the last hours of the night, at the beginning, before all the changes the WWII were taking a long long time, sometimes it even was like this - you were hosting a game in 20:00 finish the picking in 21:30 and playing until 4AM, i even remember when time when i woke up at the middle of the days and Japan was still fighting USA, i started with playing nations like brazil and mexico (still had'nt canada and australia) and falled in loved with the Naval Commander Strategy, and in that scenario i developed as a player, eventually individualism took the WWII community to dark ages too and it was full of arrogant and unkind people that ruind it for us, as the problem got worse so i got more inactive until full retirement of years, i also remember the clan i was in, i don't remember its name anymore (during something that happened to me in 2013 i lost most of my memory) but i remember from there Cthulu Devil Pinherio and few more cool guys, i also remember that it was in era that i was less active.

So, i say let's learn from history, individualism killed afterwind and atwar, it is failing everyone and it is below us.
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30.11.2016 - 20:52
作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.
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01.12.2016 - 04:25
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作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 20:52

作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako. And what he said can be backed up with proofs you on the other hand talk nonsense without even providing anything to back it up you rely on your former status to convince people, I guess your hatred to him get the worst out of you the mere fact you try hard to tarnish his reputation every chance you get is enough to tell you are a very bitter full of grudge kind of person. He surely dont need me to defend him but right now, he's not here and you throw anything you have to convince people to hate him since you know he's not even here to defend himself...

Anyway you say he was banned in 2012 and talk about it like you know why but you don't know why, you weren't even there... Most of the others mods at that time didn't even knew why (I bet they still don't) he was banned and why they banned him they just banned him because well he was banned but I know why he was banned and I will tell why. It's because another player and his clan members falsely reported him and the only mod online went forward and muted hdrakon. Hdrakon raged he was muted and told the mod to ban him and that he doesn't care and that mod decided to permanently ban him this is the real story. Hdrakon isn't saint, he used to make jokes and insult people who talked ill about him but at that particular time he didn't do anything to deserve it, the original mod who banned him understood he made a mistake after a half year and unbanned hdrakon and apologized to him and all the talk about spying mod forum or hacking this is all but allegations which were proven to be incorrect you help foster with clovis because it help you with your agenda to have him punished
As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.
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作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 13:39

>types like hdrakon

Makes me think you really don't know how hdrakon usually speaks
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01.12.2016 - 08:17
作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 04:25

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako. And what he said can be backed up with proofs you on the other hand talk nonsense without even providing anything to back it up you rely on your former status to convince people, I guess your hatred to him get the worst out of you the mere fact you try hard to tarnish his reputation every chance you get is enough to tell you are a very bitter full of grudge kind of person. He surely dont need me to defend him but right now, he's not here and you throw anything you have to convince people to hate him since you know he's not even here to defend himself...

Anyway you say he was banned in 2012 and talk about it like you know why but you don't know why, you weren't even there... Most of the others mods at that time didn't even knew why (I bet they still don't) he was banned and why they banned him they just banned him because well he was banned but I know why he was banned and I will tell why. It's because another player and his clan members falsely reported him and the only mod online went forward and muted hdrakon. Hdrakon raged he was muted and told the mod to ban him and that he doesn't care and that mod decided to permanently ban him this is the real story. Hdrakon isn't saint, he used to make jokes and insult people who talked ill about him but at that particular time he didn't do anything to deserve it, the original mod who banned him understood he made a mistake after a half year and unbanned hdrakon and apologized to him and all the talk about spying mod forum or hacking this is all but allegations which were proven to be incorrect you help foster with clovis because it help you with your agenda to have him punished
As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.


Blablabla, your "friend" hdrakon has thrown all these insults and accusations at me on the forums word for word before. You're either talking for him or he is on your account. But here is where you are very much mistaken. I do not have a grudge against hdrakon nor do i hate him. He has spammed me and sent nasty prs but i am not bothered by petty insults. I simply think he is a cancer to the community and it would be much better off without him. He is like pavle. While i was a mod there was constantly reports coming in regarding him.

Hdrakons only saving grace is the lack of infallible proof against him. He has slipped up sometimes but nobody can prove he was on ALL the guest accounts over the years. Nobody can prove he was cobra the helpspammer or that he was behind the phishing attacks. Nobody can prove that the email all the mods and admins received in hebrew showing a failed attempt to get at their passwords last year had anything to do with him. Yet all these cases are so similar in methods and have cropped up after hdrakon was banned. All we have for sure is that he is a nasty piece of work who is toxic in the chat channels. Someone with access to the chat logs could show more but basicallly it was this kinda thing on a daily basis.













Only the tip of the iceberg but i no longer have access to the chatlogs or the modforum. These are just individual cases on my lightshot history.
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01.12.2016 - 08:29
作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 04:25

作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 20:52

作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako.

so again.. how does hdrakon know whats on mod forums hm? and why u care so much to back him up? seems interesting your getting so emotional about a certain topic.

Also, if royal really wasn't hdrakon, which is what we are arguing here, he would be able to provide evidence to prove he wasn't. However, all that he does is come up with a new story each time, which is something that no one here is taking into consideration. Royal, i dont know if you know this, but I've tracked each story that you've told me of who you claim to be, and this is the first time you even mentioned "Vermeer" in any of your stories. Ok it was an hdrakon alt, cool. But this is a new part of your story that hasn't come up before. On top of this, each time the details of your story are slightly different each time. One time you said that you just joined mystics, THEN met hdrakon. Then you said you met hdrakon on his MAIN account, then joined mystics. Another time you said you joined mystics, never met hdrakon, then he came online one day and you thought he was cool. Now you say you met his alt account, then joined mystics.. This is clearly a moving target, and its irrefutable and undefendable evidence that your story is changing.

On top of this, lets look at the language used by Mobster in his last little text wall..

As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.

"You're a snake whose ego is monstrous.."
"You became visibly toxic.."

This is quite some harsh language being used by someone who claims to just be a friend of hdrakons. This sounds more like personal vendetta kind of language rather than someone who is looking at the situation factually and using evidence. On a totally new note, it is known that hdrakon has somehow been able to spy on the mod forum, and now others know about this information like mobster and are using it to defend hdrakon? This is evidence that he hdrakon should probably be banned again for a longer period of time, including the royal account who has yet to actually disprove that he isn't hdrakon.

Thats all i have to say about that, i dont claim to take one side on this situation, but I try to look at the facts of the situation.
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作者: Waffel, 01.12.2016 at 09:07

Calm ur tits Laochra. We already know you are secretly in love with Jewish penor


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Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...
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作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...

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作者: Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 09:54

作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...

this is incoherent
I may not make perfect posts in English but English is not my mother tongue. Can you articulate what is on your mind with your weak language perfectly like with your mother tongue language?
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作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 10:01

作者: Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 09:54

作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...

this is incoherent
I may not make perfect posts in English but English is not my mother tongue. Can you articulate what is on your mind with your weak language perfectly like with your mother tongue language?

read my earlier post please. thanks.
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作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 09:48



Of course you "don't hate him nor have any grudge towards him" you only insult him, talk bad about him and try to turn people against him for fun because this kind of thing bring you joy half year since he was last time online!
This is all you have about him nothing more because he wasn't as bad as you try to make him look. When cobra was spamming help chat hdrakon wasn't banned like you say... You're again talking nonsense and cherry picked the screen shots out of context to fit your agenda again. For example the 2 private chat screenshot you posted in which you censor the name of the other was between hdrakon and Al Fappino when Fappino illogically started to attack hdrakon on the forum and then when they had a private conversation Al Fappino faked his part to take a out of context screenshot.

You on the other hand insult randomly players like Commando Eagle, Klevis, King Jim without their provocation I'm sure you do this to others too. So I am done with you, you seem to suffer from superiority complex and ego centric disorder. While hdrakon only respondd to hostility with hostility you act with hostility because you don't like the other even if that person done nothing to provoke your nasty mean comments. And the email fishing story seems clearly like someone tried to frame him but I am not sure if your hatred to him block your common sense but evidently it looks so...


Its such a boring never ending circle of excuses and hdrakon apologists. But you're right that hdrakon wasnt banned during the cobra period. That was actually after amok publically told him to piss off getting a fuckload of upvotes. I do know how much hdrakon values his reputation which is why you are here. I imagine that really pissed him off.

I dont know who you are, but theres something awfully weird going on with you royal and hdrakon. You all parrot the same insults, share the same prejudices, you know whats going on in the modforum. You even knew that screenshot involved al fappino. hdrakon is either feeding you these posts or hes on this account. Its all very odd and dysfunctional.
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Please remind me again why do we care about hdrakon
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作者: Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 08:29

作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 04:25

作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 20:52

作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako.

so again.. how does hdrakon know whats on mod forums hm? and why u care so much to back him up? seems interesting your getting so emotional about a certain topic.

Also, if royal really wasn't hdrakon, which is what we are arguing here, he would be able to provide evidence to prove he wasn't. However, all that he does is come up with a new story each time, which is something that no one here is taking into consideration. Royal, i dont know if you know this, but I've tracked each story that you've told me of who you claim to be, and this is the first time you even mentioned "Vermeer" in any of your stories. Ok it was an hdrakon alt, cool. But this is a new part of your story that hasn't come up before. On top of this, each time the details of your story are slightly different each time. One time you said that you just joined mystics, THEN met hdrakon. Then you said you met hdrakon on his MAIN account, then joined mystics. Another time you said you joined mystics, never met hdrakon, then he came online one day and you thought he was cool. Now you say you met his alt account, then joined mystics.. This is clearly a moving target, and its irrefutable and undefendable evidence that your story is changing.

On top of this, lets look at the language used by Mobster in his last little text wall..

As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.

"You're a snake whose ego is monstrous.."
"You became visibly toxic.."

This is quite some harsh language being used by someone who claims to just be a friend of hdrakons. This sounds more like personal vendetta kind of language rather than someone who is looking at the situation factually and using evidence. On a totally new note, it is known that hdrakon has somehow been able to spy on the mod forum, and now others know about this information like mobster and are using it to defend hdrakon? This is evidence that he hdrakon should probably be banned again for a longer period of time, including the royal account who has yet to actually disprove that he isn't hdrakon.

Thats all i have to say about that, i dont claim to take one side on this situation, but I try to look at the facts of the situation.

You ACTUALLY think i'm hdrakon? I thought this was a joke. Want me to talk to you on my main account? I don't know what you're talking about, but i'm not sure if you know that I am not the first person to use this account. For a time at the start of 2016 the user 'Aqollo' was using this account. I began using this account in the summer, and this is the first time I have ever told of my origin story publicly. If you knew my main account then you would understand I am telling the truth, but it's funny how the moderators already are aware I am not hdrakon (hence not being banned) yet you and other haters think it's your duty to ignore the obvious with your crazy hdrakon theories and insist that I am hdrakon. Once you're online I'll talk to you on my real account and shut you up once and for all.
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作者: Zephyrusu, 01.12.2016 at 11:46

Please remind me again why do we care about hdrakon

Because we dont care about you
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Hahhah just joking man.
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作者: ROYAL, 01.12.2016 at 11:55

作者: Sultan of Swing, 01.12.2016 at 08:29

作者: Mobster, 01.12.2016 at 04:25

作者: Permamuted, 30.11.2016 at 20:52

作者: Mobster, 30.11.2016 at 15:54

I know hdrakon since 2012
First of all hdrakon is not an Arab. Second, hdrakon didn't make death threats to nobody and of course not to Vril. the real reason why Vril left started when hdrakon was permanently banned by Vril for calling him "a noob" several times on different occasions while others players used worse terms when they refere to Vril, Vril punished hdrakon severely because hdrakon was permanently banned just a year before, when the mods discussed about how unfair is this ban majority of mods were in favour to unban him and vril made a threat to quit atwar if hdrakon is unbanned then amok got involved and said to let Vril decide, meanwhile the mods reach to a decision to keep hdrakon banned for only a year if he doesn't make any problem and Vril said nothing then 2 days before 1st of march 2014 the date hdrakon was supposed to be unbanned Vril quit atwar and never returned
Thirdly you are also talking about guest accounts but this is hard to believe this is hdrakon. It can be anyone and as far as i know hdrakon barely visit atwar since he got the ban he will not do such a thing and only time hdrakon harassed mods to unban him was in 2012 and it was the last time.
You're full of hate. You try so hard to manipulate people to hate hdrakon because you hate him so much you are like obsessed with hdrakon. Let it go.


Lol and who the hell are you? Interesting that you know so much about goings on within the modforum, even down to exactly what amok said. That intervention by amok was in a thread from 2012/2013 created on the mod forum where vril had a go at one of the mods for unbanning hdrakon without any discussion with the rest. How the hell would some random r10 know of or even remember such details.

Its always the same with hdrakon, looks for allies and then tries to convince them that hes the poor innocent victim of bias and corrupt mods abusing their powers. Theres a long line of these poor suckers from 2012 right up to whoever it was that unbanned him this time. A failing of the modteam to provide transparency on his actions to future mods. But it doesnt matter, this community is dying and lacks the admin help required to deal with someone like him. It is not worth it. Each of his bans in the past has lead to retribution in some form upon the community usually in the form of guest spammers. All use vpns, all make new accounts seconds after you ban or ignore one, all are nasty and abusive, all are extraordinarily determined able to keep it up for hours at a time as one mod after the other takes shifts banning the accounts 1 at a time. I saw that the mods from 2012 had the exact same issues as they had posted screenshots. It doesn't take a genius to see that its all the same person. This is some random indie risk game who the fuck would care enough to go to that effort? Whoever you are mobster save your breath for someone worth defending. To quote acqui hdrakon is scum.

So what if you dont know who I'm it doesn't reduce my credibility to refute your accusations and I know this information because I asked hdrako.

so again.. how does hdrakon know whats on mod forums hm? and why u care so much to back him up? seems interesting your getting so emotional about a certain topic.

Also, if royal really wasn't hdrakon, which is what we are arguing here, he would be able to provide evidence to prove he wasn't. However, all that he does is come up with a new story each time, which is something that no one here is taking into consideration. Royal, i dont know if you know this, but I've tracked each story that you've told me of who you claim to be, and this is the first time you even mentioned "Vermeer" in any of your stories. Ok it was an hdrakon alt, cool. But this is a new part of your story that hasn't come up before. On top of this, each time the details of your story are slightly different each time. One time you said that you just joined mystics, THEN met hdrakon. Then you said you met hdrakon on his MAIN account, then joined mystics. Another time you said you joined mystics, never met hdrakon, then he came online one day and you thought he was cool. Now you say you met his alt account, then joined mystics.. This is clearly a moving target, and its irrefutable and undefendable evidence that your story is changing.

On top of this, lets look at the language used by Mobster in his last little text wall..

As for Acquiesce he beg to make you mod when he resigned from moderator team to satisfy your desires after you were turned down one or couple of times, you're a snake whose ego is monstrous you became more visibly toxic in the community ever since you left the mod team you were like this for a very long time.

"You're a snake whose ego is monstrous.."
"You became visibly toxic.."

This is quite some harsh language being used by someone who claims to just be a friend of hdrakons. This sounds more like personal vendetta kind of language rather than someone who is looking at the situation factually and using evidence. On a totally new note, it is known that hdrakon has somehow been able to spy on the mod forum, and now others know about this information like mobster and are using it to defend hdrakon? This is evidence that he hdrakon should probably be banned again for a longer period of time, including the royal account who has yet to actually disprove that he isn't hdrakon.

Thats all i have to say about that, i dont claim to take one side on this situation, but I try to look at the facts of the situation.

You ACTUALLY think i'm hdrakon? I thought this was a joke. Want me to talk to you on my main account? I don't know what you're talking about, but i'm not sure if you know that I am not the first person to use this account. For a time at the start of 2016 the user 'Aqollo' was using this account. I began using this account in the summer, and this is the first time I have ever told of my origin story publicly. If you knew my main account then you would understand I am telling the truth, but it's funny how the moderators already are aware I am not hdrakon (hence not being banned) yet you and other haters think it's your duty to ignore the obvious with your crazy hdrakon theories and insist that I am hdrakon. Once you're online I'll talk to you on my real account and shut you up once and for all.

oh so now other people had access to this account beforehand too? add that one to the list of changing stories now, thats a new one. I must say your a good persuasive writer, but it doesnt work on me. I am still waiting for some sort of factual basis...

edit: also if i were u id just embrace it since your r10 on this account anyways, it doesnt really matter if your him or not.. id just prefer honesty and an end to the drama of your rage
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