A rebirth of hope?

Great signs were seen in main lobby today, is there hope for wwii to actually come back?

The new interconnection between cities is great, but you have one big problem now: NC destroyers gives +1 capacity.


Now you have to remove them, and ww2 will become another scenario where NC is unplayable due to damm changes...

作者： clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 07:43

That ^
So instead of having a playable map, NC destroyers' shit disallows people to play NC if units are changed to naval secondary attack or other -- it also makes naval main attack range upgrade useless.

Need custom strategies

作者： Xenosapien, 23.01.2016 at 09:56

Need custom strategies

I can't possibility give more upvotes to this! But it has been suggested so many times before...

Who cares

作者： AlBoZzZ, 23.01.2016 at 12:42

Who cares

Apparently you do, since you've took the time to post in this thread.

作者： clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 12:46

作者： AlBoZzZ, 23.01.2016 at 12:42

Who cares

Apparently you do, since you've took the time to post in this thread.

no, it was just a question....

ty clovis

作者： clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 12:46

作者： AlBoZzZ, 23.01.2016 at 12:42

Who cares

Apparently you do, since you've took the time to post in this thread.

Brutal. The wild clovis shows the claws

I hope it comes back and stays, is obviously a great scenario

I'm making another scenario so soon u'll see

作者： I_Hate_You_All, 23.01.2016 at 19:19

I'm making another scenario so soon u'll see

Please don't

作者： Guest, 23.01.2016 at 07:54

作者： clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 07:43

That ^
So instead of having a playable map, NC destroyers' shit disallows people to play NC if units are changed to naval secondary attack or other -- it also makes naval main attack range upgrade useless.

This affects what, 2 of the 19 sides in a ww2, if the mapmaker is halfway competent(which tiktok is) he'll make adjustments so this wont be an issue. Stop making a big deal about nothing.

作者： Viruslegion, 23.01.2016 at 20:36

作者： I_Hate_You_All, 23.01.2016 at 19:19

I'm making another scenario so soon u'll see

Please don't

Stop being a cuckhold of Tunder, i don't care about ur optimate shit.

作者： Permamuted, 23.01.2016 at 20:53

This affects what, 2 of the 19 sides in a ww2,

I don't know what is more annoying... the fact that you know nothing about scenarios or the fact that you keep acting like if you knew a damm about them. At the very minimal take the decency to spectate the scenario. Here is a link where you can see all the lanes: http://atwar-game.com/map/?id=1982

Just for the record, this change affect at least 8 sides of the map. Haven't tested yet how strong would Germany be if it could bypass US trenches, but it does looks capable of capping in T3

作者： Permamuted, 23.01.2016 at 20:53

作者： Guest, 23.01.2016 at 07:54

作者： clovis1122, 23.01.2016 at 07:43

That ^
So instead of having a playable map, NC destroyers' shit disallows people to play NC if units are changed to naval secondary attack or other -- it also makes naval main attack range upgrade useless.

the mapmaker is halfway competent(which tiktok is) he'll make adjustments so this wont be an issue. Stop making a big deal about nothing.

And what njab said is exactly what Tik-tok is going to do. He'll make destroyers secondary units so they doesn't get boosted by NC.

Another scenario more in which NC is unplayable. Thanks you.

作者： I_Hate_You_All, 23.01.2016 at 21:25

作者： Viruslegion, 23.01.2016 at 20:36

作者： I_Hate_You_All, 23.01.2016 at 19:19

I'm making another scenario so soon u'll see

Please don't

i don't care about ur optimate shit.

you certainly cared enough to reply

作者： Permamuted, 23.01.2016 at 20:53

If you know how to play all strategies on EU it doesn't mean you understand them on other map -- especially because you never play any map but EU unlike some other mods like Meester. You are trying to make us think you know something about scenarios -- sorry, you indeed don't.

On first sight I see you can play NC Naval Japan, both USAs, Brazil, Germany, Australia, maybe Siam -- basically 7 roles very playable with NC. Do you need anything more?

>nc germany

oh yea lets pick a naval strat with one of the weakest on land defensive capabilities for a side with hardly any ports and whose primary role is to hold. Oh noes you can put your inf in destroyers, such op.

Most of the sides you mentioned range from average to crap with that strat. The only real issue is the trench bypass, come up with a few workarounds and propose them to amok when the new map editor is done and stop being a bunch of drama queens.

Why should an interesting change to the strat be reversed just because it breaks the mechanics of the few maps that contain trench systems.

作者： Permamuted, 24.01.2016 at 04:11

>nc germany

oh yea lets pick a naval strat with one of the weakest on land defensive capabilities for a side with hardly any ports and whose primary role is to hold. Oh noes you can put your inf in destroyers, such op.

Most of the sides you mentioned range from average to crap with that strat. The only real issue is the trench bypass, come up with a few workarounds and propose them to amok when the new map editor is done and stop being a bunch of drama queens.

Why should an interesting change to the strat be reversed just because it breaks the mechanics of the few maps that contain trench systems.

"whose primary role is to hold"

Are you TRYING to show your ignorance?

I actually agree that the change is indeed, interesting and I like the possibilities that it offer in terms of maneuvers for maps such as the default map. If I had to choose though, I would rather see this change go than watching NC becoming unplayable in scenarios. That damages diversity and makes the game more centered around the default map than other maps.

Don't lie to yourself, if admins had elected the default map as important they would had removed custom maps when Dalmati made their retirement thread.

I will PM Amok to see what can be done.

How many times do mods have to explain to you cucks that custom maps are not considered in strategy updates. Reason being? It's simple custom maps are made by players where there is bound to be balancing issues as is, it is impossible to cater to scenarios what so ever, it is up to the map makers to make changes accordingly. I am a competent map maker take it from me I'd love nothing more then to dictate how this game is ran based of my maps. But it's not possible, the default world map is and will always be the standard. This should be the last time this arguement is brought up.

作者： Helly, 24.01.2016 at 08:47

How many times do mods have to explain to you cucks that custom maps are not considered in strategy updates. Reason being? It's simple custom maps are made by players where there is bound to be balancing issues as is, it is impossible to cater to scenarios what so ever, it is up to the map makers to make changes accordingly. I am a competent map maker take it from me I'd love nothing more then to dictate how this game is ran based of my maps. But it's not possible, the default world map is and will always be the standard. This should be the last time this arguement is brought up.

i would argue that both sides are right, we need to have custom strategies for custom maps.

@Viruslegion, play my scenarios or maps before made a judgement, obviosly inspired by Tunder and all his cuks in optimate coalition. I have no problem with all of u, u simply bitch and bitch over my maps and u never played it.

That 1 screenshot shows a different ww2 than the one i played over a year ago. In that one you killed uk then fended off the usa and russia.

regardless nc germany still sucks and my point still stands. Rather than having the nc change reversed you can instead push for mapmakers to have more control over their creations with negative capacities/ranges(blitz forts/bunkers) and custom strats rather than removing an interesting change that maps without trench systems can enjoy. A better use of your time than making overdramatic claims about the effect of this change on maps.

作者： clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 07:32

Don't lie to yourself, if admins had elected the default map as important they would had removed custom maps when Dalmati made their retirement thread.

The default map and its' units was the map atwar was built around, it is THE original map where the strats have been and still are altered. The map is obviously pretty important and the admins obviously agree.

作者： I_Hate_You_All, 24.01.2016 at 12:54

@Viruslegion, play my scenarios or maps before made a judgement, obviosly inspired by Tunder and all his cuks in optimate coalition. I have no problem with all of u, u simply bitch and bitch over my maps and u never played it.

quote me if you want my attention, don't post a comment and hope I don't see it, I have played your 7 years war, it's awful, I don't need to play your ww2 to see how awful it is

作者： Permamuted, 24.01.2016 at 13:04

The map is obviously pretty important and the admins obviously agree.

Nobody denies that.

作者： Ivan, 28.11.2012 at 15:08

After months of hard work, atWar is finally open to everyone. We have said our goodbyes to Afterwind, and are now looking steadily into the future. Some of the players are rather overly-nostalgic - but this is always unavoidable, unless we decide to halt all progress on the game. Personally, we are rather pleased with the result and are really excited about all the custom maps and scenarios popping up.

Sadly for you, admins chosen the diversity over the monotony long ago. I'm afraid that you and other people still lives in Afterwind world and can't see how awesome the game has become. Custom Maps and Scenarios aren't less important than the default map. But hey, I'm not admin so don't take my word and just watch the future of the game.

Let's just wait and see what they do. Nothing that we talk here will change anything anyway.

作者： clovis1122, 24.01.2016 at 14:59

作者： Permamuted, 24.01.2016 at 13:04

The map is obviously pretty important and the admins obviously agree.

Nobody denies that.

作者： Ivan, 28.11.2012 at 15:08

After months of hard work, atWar is finally open to everyone. We have said our goodbyes to Afterwind, and are now looking steadily into the future. Some of the players are rather overly-nostalgic - but this is always unavoidable, unless we decide to halt all progress on the game. Personally, we are rather pleased with the result and are really excited about all the custom maps and scenarios popping up.

Sadly for you, admins chosen the diversity over the monotony long ago. I'm afraid that you and other people still lives in Afterwind world and can't see how awesome the game has become. Custom Maps and Scenarios aren't less important than the default map. But hey, I'm not admin so don't take my word and just watch the future of the game.

Let's just wait and see what they does. Nothing that we talk here will change anything anyway.

read my post again, think about what i am saying, then read your post again. Then delete it. If you don't see why it needs to be deleted, then i've nothing more to say here because i cba explaining.

作者： Permamuted, 24.01.2016 at 15:05

Then delete it. If you don't see why it needs to be deleted, then i've nothing more to say here because i cba explaining.

So you can claim that you've forgot it later on? No.

I will actually bookmark this thread so you can remember it later on.

作者： Permamuted, 24.01.2016 at 04:11

>nc germany

oh yea lets pick a naval strat with one of the weakest on land defensive capabilities for a side with hardly any ports and whose primary role is to hold. Oh noes you can put your inf in destroyers, such op.

Most of the sides you mentioned range from average to crap with that strat. The only real issue is the trench bypass, come up with a few workarounds and propose them to amok when the new map editor is done and stop being a bunch of drama queens.

Why should an interesting change to the strat be reversed just because it breaks the mechanics of the few maps that contain trench systems.

To hold? Stop telling us you know nothing about scenarios.

作者： Guest, 25.01.2016 at 05:29

To hold? Stop telling us you know nothing about scenarios.

At this point you can be 100% sure that he indeed, knows nothing about scenarios. Arguing with him makes no sense.

I've mailed Amok explaining him the issue. I'll make you guys know his reply.