RP makers use stolen work.

But what if Adog knew the art of putting many quotes in the same message

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:37

By all means, if illuminatum wants it back ever, I would stop the circulation of the clones. 100% But either way those clones are no longer played.

So you admit that Illuminatum did most of the work when it comes to borders, and that Martell and Fappino should put up illuminatum in the description if they have any integrity for using his work?

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:43

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:37

By all means, if illuminatum wants it back ever, I would stop the circulation of the clones. 100% But either way those clones are no longer played.

So you admit that Illuminatum did most of the work when it comes to borders, and that Martell and Fappino should put up illuminatum in the description if they have any integrity for using his work?

I agree

However, I DO NOT Agree with the fact you ACCUSE US of having 0 consent, or distributing without free will.

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:39

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:36

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:33

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at no time did aetius or tunder claimed ownership of the map. Where is Aetiu's RP or Tunder's RP? oh wait there is none because they don't claim the work as their own.

So what is the issue here, the credit or the free distribution against will. So you were blabbing on about the fact that I distributed apparently "without consent". and yet when you did the exact same thing with 100% certainty you had 0 consent of either illuminatum or the ARC, that's perfectly fine is it? Perfectly fine for you (and your assosciates) to distribute his hardwork is it? So that all the tiny rp map makers would make their own map and claim the work themselves. That's fine is it. Bull shit!

I already told you that at no time Aetius or Tunder claimed to be the ones behind the hard work put on the map and its borders. But You, Martell, and Fappino did. But now you told me you are willing to fix this misunderstanding by admitting that illuminatum did put most of the work on those maps and you will put him on the credits (which you claim you already did) but fappino and martell didn't .

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:46

(which you claim you already did) but fappino and martell didn't .

I HAVE NEVER TAKEN WORK WITHOUT GIVING CREDIT. End of. Illuminatum agreed i can do what i want with it, and I gave him the courtesy of "Illuminated". I have always agreed that my rp was not really my work, you can see from the style. I only released it to try decancerise rp.

Whatever martell, tunder, fappino and aetius did are their thing.

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:44

However, I DO NOT Agree with the fact you ACCUSE US of having 0 consent, or distributing without free will.

You have no proof of consent, besides the fact that he allowed you and only you to clone his original map (which was hidden and only a collaborator could see), after that he didn't have a saying in who copied yours because there was no way for him to stop you even if he wanted to.

But if you are willing to put him on the credits then this will no longer be a issue since the issue here was that people were claiming to have made the map by themselves and ignored illuminatus existence. If i hadn't brought this up nobody would have known that fappino and martell didn't made the map themselves.

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:46

I already told you that at no time Aetius or Tunder claimed to be the ones behind the hard work put on the map and its borders. But You, Martell, and Fappino did.

But apparently you stand up against distribution against will. And yet that is exactly what they did.

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:48

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:46

(which you claim you already did) but fappino and martell didn't .

I HAVE NEVER TAKEN WORK WITHOUT GIVING CREDIT. End of. Illuminatum agreed i can do what i want with it, and I gave him the courtesy of "Illuminated". I have always agreed that my rp was not really my work, you can see from the style. I only released it to try decancerise rp.

Whatever martell, tunder, fappino and aetius did are their thing.

they got the map because you gave it to them.

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:49

But if you are willing to put him on the credits then this will no longer be a issue since the issue here was that people were claiming to have made the map by themselves and ignored illuminatus existence. If i hadn't brought this up nobody would have known that fappino and martell didn't made the map themselves.

Oh ffs talking to you is like talking to a brick wall. I have said, several times, publicly, everywhere the work is not mine. I also gave him credits (check the scenario version). Furthemore, what fappino and martell have done is their issue. Not mine.

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:50

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:48

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:46

(which you claim you already did) but fappino and martell didn't .

I HAVE NEVER TAKEN WORK WITHOUT GIVING CREDIT. End of. Illuminatum agreed i can do what i want with it, and I gave him the courtesy of "Illuminated". I have always agreed that my rp was not really my work, you can see from the style. I only released it to try decancerise rp.

Whatever martell, tunder, fappino and aetius did are their thing.

they got the map because you gave it to them.

Tunder and Aetius got it from martell, because martell hated me. The fact tunder, aetius and martell had distributed ARC property without consent is no less wrong, than anyone distributing anything without consent.

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:52

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:50

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:48

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:46

(which you claim you already did) but fappino and martell didn't .

I HAVE NEVER TAKEN WORK WITHOUT GIVING CREDIT. End of. Illuminatum agreed i can do what i want with it, and I gave him the courtesy of "Illuminated". I have always agreed that my rp was not really my work, you can see from the style. I only released it to try decancerise rp.

Whatever martell, tunder, fappino and aetius did are their thing.

they got the map because you gave it to them.

Tunder and Aetius got it from martell, because martell hated me. The fact tunder, aetius and martell had distributed ARC property without consent is no less wrong, than anyone distributing anything without consent.

but how did martell and fappino got their hands on the map? you gave it to them through the ARC?

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 14:53

but how did martell and fappino got their hands on the map? you gave it to them through the ARC?

The Entire ARC and EC government have my password and use it to manipulate and control, who rules rp etc.. When tempted started pissing EC off i am sure they gave it to martell. Later on, when martell got cocky they must have given it to fappino. I don't really play rp so I personally couldn't care less. But for the sake of truth that is most likely the case.

If at any point illuminatum has a problem with this, I fully respect his property rights and will as emperor dictate the end of the distribution within the ARC to it's subsequent clans and map makers.

You really didn't have to try to make a non-issue and issue. Seriously, you could have just talked to me personally, via message.

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:58

You really didn't have to try to make a non-issue and issue. Seriously, you could have just talked to me personally, via message.

you don't like plagiarism either as it seems, so why not also support my proposal to fix problems like this arising in the future? perhaps we may not be so lucky and next time the person actually steals the map and claims it as his own.

First of all, what's with this thread? Why are you making a non-issue an issue? Why are you, a UN faglord even complaining about RP (UN is as autistic as RP is tbh).
Adog already said Illuminatum gave him full consent and transfered ownership of the map to Adog, so I don't see any issue whatsoever here, and I consider this thread to simply be a thread, written by someone who has huge grudges against Adog based on the past, and bringing that to General Discussions forum is just petty and idiotic from your side, Spartan.

Second of all, I find it extremely distasteful, mean, disgusting that you even put rape on the same level of petty mapmaking drama raised up by you. How can you be such a monster and even mention that Rape is equally comparable to this?

Third of all, how can you even employ braincells into opposing such a bug fix like this one: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=24266

Fourth of all, I think this is simply a toxic cry thread seeking to hurt Fappino and Adog, based on grudges of the past and drama that you Spartan, seek to create. There's no issue here because Illuminatum transferred ownership of the map to Adog, and from that, it's Adog's property. If there was an issue, I'm sure Illuminatum would have reached out on Adog and ask to give the map back, since he had 2 years to do it. No response so far, so I assume he simply does not care about this, and you're making yourself look idiotic by fighting someone else's (non-existing) fight.


Last, but not the least, as a confident of Fappino, he has vigorously state he made his map on his own, I just think this is a petty toxic thread seeking to get some cover by other people, from a person who hasnt got any cover since the fall of his failure UN.


Respectfully,
Regulator Grey.

RPfag VS RPfag: The Movie

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

First of all, what's with this thread? Why are you making a non-issue an issue? Why are you, a UN faglord even complaining about RP (UN is as autistic as RP is tbh).

Nah fam, the issue is actually important since nobody had actually stolen credits this bad before.

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Adog already said Illuminatum gave him full consent and transfered ownership of the map to Adog, so I don't see any issue whatsoever here, and I consider this thread to simply be a thread, written by someone who has huge grudges against Adog based on the past, and bringing that to General Discussions forum is just petty and idiotic from your side, Spartan.

I never claimed that adog cloning the map was bad, what i said was that clonning AND not giving credit to the original owner is plagiarism

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Second of all, I find it extremely distasteful, mean, disgusting that you even put rape on the same level of petty mapmaking drama raised up by you. How can you be such a monster and even mention that Rape is equally comparable to this?

i already clarified your point when i replied to darth, your fallacies won't work on me

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Third of all, how can you even employ braincells into opposing such a bug fix like this one: http://atwar-game.com/forum/topic.php?topic_id=24266

Is not my job to educate you on the significance of fixing that "bug", just because it didn't had the intended result doesn't mean that it wasn't helpful. Trust me there is many bugs in map making that you don't want them to get removed. One of them is the ability to make maps be categorized as scenarios and adog and fappino know exactly well what i am talking about, but that is an issue for another topic as its a problem of its own.

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Fourth of all, I think this is simply a toxic cry thread seeking to hurt Fappino and Adog, based on grudges of the past and drama that you Spartan, seek to create. There's no issue here because Illuminatum transferred ownership of the map to Adog, and from that, it's Adog's property. If there was an issue, I'm sure Illuminatum would have reached out on Adog and ask to give the map back, since he had 2 years to do it. No response so far, so I assume he simply does not care about this, and you're making yourself look idiotic by fighting someone else's (non-existing) fight.

prove that i have any grudges, I would do this to anyone who plagiarized content.

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Last, but not the least, as a confident of Fappino, he has vigorously state he made his map on his own, I just think this is a petty toxic thread seeking to get some cover by other people, from a person who hasnt got any cover since the fall of his failure UN.

then fappino is a lier and you are a fool. Adog already confirmed that the map was made by illuminatum. If Adog is willing to credit illuminatum then why fappino and martell won't?

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 15:01

作者： Professor Adog, 08.05.2016 at 14:58

You really didn't have to try to make a non-issue and issue. Seriously, you could have just talked to me personally, via message.

you don't like plagiarism either as it seems, so why not also support my proposal to fix problems like this arising in the future? perhaps we may not be so lucky and next time the person actually steals the map and claims it as his own.

Firstly, I'd like you to add a second edit saying that the issue has been resolved. And that if you check scenario version (which is the correct version) i have always called it Adog's Illuminated RP
Secondly with your solution, well I think the person who allowed it to be cloned - in whatever case, is entitled to credit. WHICH IS WHY I HAVE ALWAYS GIVEN CREDIT. Everyone else should do the same, it is simple courtesy.

Once again, as Adog said, Illuminatum gave absolute consent and transfer of ownership of the map to ARC. Adog already explained the chain of events that led to Illuminatum's clone and being deeply aware of all of this, it's the absolute truth.

Personally, I also opposed distributing without consent, but in this case, the whole of the ARC had consent from the original maker to actually use the map, as now their property.
Also, again, how is this stealing credit if Illuminatum consented?

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:27

Once again, as Adog said, Illuminatum gave absolute consent and transfer of ownership of the map to ARC. Adog already explained the chain of events that led to Illuminatum's clone and being deeply aware of all of this, it's the absolute truth.

Personally, I also opposed distributing without consent, but in this case, the whole of the ARC had consent from the original maker to actually use the map, as now their property.
Also, again, how is this stealing credit if Illuminatum consented?

because as you said early:

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Last, but not the least, as a confident of Fappino, he has vigorously state he made his map on his own

the issue is not that they cloned the map, but that fappino and martell claim that they did the map on their own and illuminatum is not credited. Adog clarified that he does credit illuminatum for doing the work, so I ask again: why do fappino and martell don't do the same?

作者： Cpt.Magic, 08.05.2016 at 15:31

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:27

Once again, as Adog said, Illuminatum gave absolute consent and transfer of ownership of the map to ARC. Adog already explained the chain of events that led to Illuminatum's clone and being deeply aware of all of this, it's the absolute truth.

Personally, I also opposed distributing without consent, but in this case, the whole of the ARC had consent from the original maker to actually use the map, as now their property.
Also, again, how is this stealing credit if Illuminatum consented?

because as you said early:

作者： TheCourier6, 08.05.2016 at 15:05

Last, but not the least, as a confident of Fappino, he has vigorously state he made his map on his own

the issue is not that they cloned the map, but that fappino and martell claim that they did the map on their own and illuminatum is not credited. Adog clarified that he does credit illuminatum for doing the work, so I ask again: why do fappino and martell don't do the same?

I cannot speak for any of them, and I will let Fappino answer on his own. Martell refused indeed to do any concessions about credits, because I had intel that he actually employed some people to actually do the edits for him, and later he claimed all the work (Including his baseline map) to be his, when none of it wasnt, except for a large portion of the units, which my friend, ex-Arelaun said he did some of them.


You didn't quite reply if you agreed with your masters way of distributing creditless and unauthorized copies of Illuminatum's map under the name of "Free RP", because unlike them, the ARC had full consent and property over the map. Once again, you're dodging questions.

I'll let Fappino answer for himself, he must know things better than I do

People have the option to make cloning disabled the original creator CHOSE not to, plus the background map is made from amok and ivans so you all cloning.

Such a non-thread

''from the thieves that stole his hard work.''


On the contrary, he allowed cloning, that suggests he is happy for it to be copied.

Finding who made the original is like finding patient 0 for aids

作者： Viruslegion, 08.05.2016 at 21:58

Finding who made the original is like finding patient 0 for aids

There's no point since the disease has already spread so far

作者： Darth., 08.05.2016 at 22:03

作者： Viruslegion, 08.05.2016 at 21:58

Finding who made the original is like finding patient 0 for aids

There's no point since the disease has already spread so far

Same applies to RP...

作者： Guest, 09.05.2016 at 00:50

作者： Darth., 08.05.2016 at 22:03

作者： Viruslegion, 08.05.2016 at 21:58

Finding who made the original is like finding patient 0 for aids

There's no point since the disease has already spread so far

Same applies to RP...

I know

This topic started out with good intent. I wanted to post a reply a couple of hours before the plague struck but I didn't get the chance. The plague is too strong now to post a reply.

Locked.